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This is the official Dead Vanyel Party discussion post!
Whether it's your first read or your millionth, there's always something worth talking about--and rambling at length about at that. Confide in your fellow Lackey fans--who's your fave? What books do you eat up with a spoon? Does Vanyel end up as a gay Companion after the Mage Storms books? Or is he reborn as the very subtle baby herald "Vanel"? If so, does that make Stef his life-bonded companion "Tylenol", or what? And is Ma'ar REALLY dead? (No!)
Life's little questions, and we all want to talk about them.
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Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-23 06:14 pm (UTC)Kethry is a gentle, generous dom (no bondage, but definite control). Jadrek loves to submit.
Sherrill, Keren and Ylsa have not actually had sex with each other on Companion-back, but that doesn't stop rumors from getting around the Heralds' Collegium. Most of their sex is vanilla. Delicious, enthusiastic vanilla.
Someone really ought to write explicit Lavan/Kalira. I mean, it's right there in the text.
There was that one time when Kris and Dirk were drunk and got it on. In an alternate universe where Kris isn't dead, Talia finds out about it later and organizes a threesome. In fact, in that alternate universe, they settle into a stable triad where two parties are lifebonded and the third is their best friend. Oh, and they all learn to freaking communicate.
Kerowyn and Eldan do finally figure out that having sex in dreams means never having to worry about the laws of physics. Underwater sex? Flying sex? Really athletic Tayledras-meets-Kama-Sutra sex that challenges even Kero and Eldan's perfectly-in-form bodies? Why not?
Savil has much more frequent, much better sex than Vanyel or Tylendel ever manage. (Stefen, pre-Vanyel, is another story.)
Tarma is absolutely ace. Kethry is absolutely heterosexual. Nevertheless the two of them do a lot of nonsexual cuddling and massage. A lot.
(I would be happy for anyone to write about any of these!)
Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-28 03:34 am (UTC)If nobody prompts and fills Ylsa!lives AU Sherrill/Keren/Ylsa smut, I'm going to be very disappointed in this fest :D
TBH there are a lot of somebody!lives AU threesomes that need to happen in Valdemar.
Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-28 12:17 pm (UTC)Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-28 04:37 pm (UTC)I feel weird about Vanyel with women, because even though it's canon that he's slept with women, writing gay characters with opposite sex partners is such a fraught subject in fandom and my kneejerk reaction is NOPE. But I think I'd be down for a scenario where Vanyel and Shavri have sex to make Jisa like in the books, but Randale's also involved to help Van get it up ;)
Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-29 12:42 am (UTC)writing gay characters with opposite sex partners is such a fraught subject in fandom <--this is just fandom trying to take the easy way out. I know, fandom sometimes finds things like nuance and complexity hard, but IRL people often do things that are incongruent with their sexual identities, for one reason or another. Vanyel had one of those reasons, multiple times. It doesn't bother him, and once he worked through his Shavri issues he was comfortable in his sexual identity regarding it. I don't want to ignore that bit of canon just because some people can't deal with sexuality as something other than cut-and-dried.
ETA i'm just realising this is one of my favourite things about canon: it comes out so strongly against the religious right view that sexuality is just sexual behaviour and that if gay people 'choose' to have sex with women, or be celibate, they'll stop being gay. Van refutes that so hard and I love him for it.
Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-29 06:51 am (UTC)I do think that, of all subjects for fandom to tread carefully around, this at least is a good one. Not saying it shouldn't be done ever, but it should be done carefully :)
Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-29 11:05 pm (UTC)yeah - all meaningful topics in fics benefit from being done with skill, informed by personal experience, and in context with canon. Van/Shavri is canon, so I don't see how there's any treading careful to be done if people want to write about it in that canon context? (Or Van/Snowlight, etc).
Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.
Date: 2015-07-29 04:42 am (UTC)I will certainly prompt Ylsa!lives Sherrill/Keren/Ylsa. I mean, three hot lifebonded lesbians are even better than two hot lifebonded lesbians! (Although I'm pretty sure Sherrill's actually bisexual.)