Valdemar Discussion Post!

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This is the official Dead Vanyel Party discussion post!

Whether it's your first read or your millionth, there's always something worth talking about--and rambling at length about at that. Confide in your fellow Lackey fans--who's your fave? What books do you eat up with a spoon? Does Vanyel end up as a gay Companion after the Mage Storms books? Or is he reborn as the very subtle baby herald "Vanel"? If so, does that make Stef his life-bonded companion "Tylenol", or what? And is Ma'ar REALLY dead? (No!)

Life's little questions, and we all want to talk about them.

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Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Rape kink post-actual rape, obviously. ^.^ He'd be so ashamed. :D

And...I agree with everything you just said. I don't think Vanyel would have a clue what to do with an equal partner, and had Stef not pursued him like a greyhound chasing a rabbit, Vanyel would have nobly refrained forever because he could never take advantage. Now being taken advantage of, on the other hand, that he finds very hard to resist.

Didn't a ton of heralds think Vanyel had taken advantage of Tylendel in the first book? Was quite a formative time for Vanyel, hearing exactly what people thought of him.

(yeeees I want to write this too)

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[thene]

Didn't a ton of heralds think Vanyel had taken advantage of Tylendel in the first book? Was quite a formative time for Vanyel, hearing exactly what people thought of him.

:( wow, yeah. Jaysen did think that, and it would make sense if a bunch of other people also saw him as a sexual predator. His family did. And around his family, he's really terrified of doing anything to reinforce that view. So, yeah.

I can see where you're coming from on post-actual rape (and Van being ashamed and awkward is our crack) but I've never figured out how to instigate it. I could imagine that a play scenario with Stef in which Van was in complete control of the scene could be helpful and healing for him. But it would be damn hard for either of them to go there.

WRITE THINGS ALL OF THE THINGS

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, the timeline kind of absolutely doesn't allow it, so it'd have to be some kind of AU where Leareth has a surprise heart attack at the shock of how very pretty Vanyel is in person, and also, giant avalanche takes out his army.

To be super fair, I'm totally willing to write that for my perverse desire for Vanyel the super awkward to try and communicate without words that he wants Stef to hold him down and fuck him really hard while Vanyel pretends he doesn't want Stef to. How do you subtle hint THAT, Vanyel? :D (Awkwardly!)

Also Yfandes angst about not having a tail.

...I like a lot of things. Especially crack, tbh.

(Vanyel is a surprisingly consistent character with surprisingly consistent issues)

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[thene]

so it'd have to be some kind of AU where Leareth has a surprise heart attack at the shock of how very pretty Vanyel is in person, and also, giant avalanche takes out his army

^i will happily assume this AU, except when I want angsty post-canon Stef, because I love angsty post-canon Stef svfm.

Van/Lendel is the they didn't need words ship.
Van/Stef is the words and love ship. <--esp given that this appears right after the rape, I think he DID eventually have to figure out how to communicate with Stef using actual words, but oh so awkwards.

Or, suppose it was Stef's idea and then he sat in a corner to be horrified at himself forever for even thinking it might help, well maybe a lot, well maybe given everything he knows about both people and Vanyel he's actually pretty sure it would work, but oh god he's horrified at himself for believing that.

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[(Anonymous)]

You have only good ideas, and should be proud of that.

I especially like it being Stef's idea. That could be so very, very screwed up.

But now you have me thinking of how Tylendel could have pushed Vanyel into pretty much anything, and isn't that a lovely thought? God, so many prompt ideas.

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[thene]

Tylendel could have pushed Vanyel into pretty much anything

yeah because I am awful I did once write Lendel/Van dubcon. :( I didn't do the situation justice at all, tbph. You've got Van's extreme innocence/naivete and also his touch-starvation, the way that Lendel and the sex they have together validates who he is for the first time in his life, plus Lendel's domineeringness and impulsiveness...it could be the most beautiful, loving situation and still get way way way out of Van's comfort zone.