Valdemar Discussion Post!

[mornelithe_falconsbane]

This is the official Dead Vanyel Party discussion post!

Whether it's your first read or your millionth, there's always something worth talking about--and rambling at length about at that. Confide in your fellow Lackey fans--who's your fave? What books do you eat up with a spoon? Does Vanyel end up as a gay Companion after the Mage Storms books? Or is he reborn as the very subtle baby herald "Vanel"? If so, does that make Stef his life-bonded companion "Tylenol", or what? And is Ma'ar REALLY dead? (No!)

Life's little questions, and we all want to talk about them.

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Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[thene]

I bet Stef could weave some interesting stories with a naughty song or two

The good news is, there's a really great little 400-word fic about this. The bad news is, I hope you can read French, or at least enjoy it via google translate?

I totally agree about Stef switching...I mean, it's Stef, there's not a lot he doesn't want to try. But I think he prefers to be in control. You should def try the tempting Van into dominating him idea - I've never seen any D/s fic where Van is the top. I think that may be because Van is all dodgy about the age gap; the whole thing hinges on Stef being the sexually assertive one.

When pennie_dreadful and I first dared each other into writing kink for this pairing, I started from the idea that Stef would coax Van into being kinky with him, but she went with Van coaxing Stef into being kinky with him which is kinda hella fun and I've come to think she may have been right; it just seems to make sense that Van would have figured that out about himself by that point and he'd know what he wanted from Stef, even if he couldn't say it.

ETA: Oh god, I can see Lendel doing that, in a dumb kids playing with fire way. There's something in Winds of Change about sex magics, but sadly no details. Maybe Lendel read a few things and oh god.

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[shadowsapiens]

I actually can read French! I'm more used to 17th century plays than fanfic, of course, but it should be a good vocab exercise :D

Yeah there's not a lot of space within canon to push Vanyel's boundaries with the age gap issue. Vanyel was still very much in "protect baby Stefen" mode almost to the end.

I could see Vanyel's kinky/subby nature being part of why other relationships in between Tylendel and Stefen didn't work out. Not only did his job, status, and shitty mental health get in the way, but he would probably find it very difficult to open up about needing to be tied up or ordered around. So by the time he meets Stef, he already knows that all vanilla, all the time doesn't work for him. (Cue angsty conversations with Yfandes about how it's hard enough being shaych, how will he find someone who also wants to blindfold and gag him, yet won't think less of him?)



....now I'm going to prompt for fic of Lendel trying sex magic on Van and everything going TERRIBLY WRONG and then Savil bursts in to see what the explosion was and finds them naked and very embarrassed in a wrecked bedroom.

Re: So which characters have what kinks? Be detailed.

[thene]

I want that sex magic fic right now god damn you :(

(Cue angsty conversations with Yfandes about how it's hard enough being shaych, how will he find someone who also wants to blindfold and gag him, yet won't think less of him?)

Kat's kinkverse goes with that, here. Though I can't imagine it would be that hard for Van to find someone who wanted to see him tied up...

I actually think Van might have got over Stef's age in terms of sex, because there is a lot of canon evidence of relationships with huge age gaps being fairly common - there's Starwind/Moondance, Jervis/Melenna, and it's implicit that Van's parents have a wide age gap too. (Van is the second child out of ten, so unless Withen is MUCH younger than Savil, he's likely much older than Treesa). So I think the difference in power level and life experiences would have troubled him for longer than Stef's age per se. But he's a very protective person, and he'd always rather burden himself than put someone else at risk of harm - so of course he's overprotective of Stef. ;_;